Breaking down the Leave campaign propaganda
So I’ve been trying to figure out exactly which blog I would write in regards to the upcoming EU referendum. Those that know me will understand I’m passionately for staying IN for multiple reasons, but with such a number of different concepts to this debate, It’s been difficult to really nail down how I wanted to approach this subject.
Recently I’ve seen social media pop up a Leave EU video which has been making the rounds across Facebook and Twitter, so I thought I’d break each statement down. They are through this blog in quotations.
Hello Britain this EU Referendum has been made to look, really, rather confusing, but’s it’s actually all quite simple.
Leaving the EU is anything but simple, for one thing every Brexiter must realize that we would need to renegotiate 124 trade agreements with countries from around the world. Some of these trade agreements have taken decades to organize as part of the EU, the American Government for one example , have estimated that it would be at least 10 years to hash out any trade deal with the UK.
The civil service (those un-elected bureaucrats from our own country ) are woefully underfunded and understaffed to be able to complete these trade agreements in any quick time frame. The LSE (London School of Economics) have concluded that we would need to hire thousands more consultants, at a considerable cost to the British tax payer; worth bearing in mind that Britain has not negotiated its own free trade agreements in 4 decades. This doesn’t even take into account the amount of funding needed to match EU subsidies into our businesses and services, and where that funding would actually come from if we left. So even taking the best possible outcome for Brexit, the situation is far from simple.
Britain as part of the EU is in a free trade area that spreads from Iceland to Turkey. Free trade is great because it makes trade easier, however not all countries in this area of EU members and no one’s proposing we would ever leave this trade block, if we exit the EU; least of all Germany who earns billions selling us their cars.
Turkey is not exactly in the free trade area, it’s in a customs union, and it pays tariffs on a lot of its products into the EU.
The UK goods trade is 55% higher being part of the Single Market, this accounts for over 130 billion pounds into our country in the last year,and an extra 670,000 made from every business that exports to the EU. So of course we’d want to stay in the Single Market – in fact Ukippers, and the Ultra right-wing Tories backing Brexit, have stated quite clearly that they don’t want to leave the Single Market. But if that’s the case, then why would we want to leave the EU where we can have a say on how the Single Market works and operates? We would have to abide by all the same rules and regulations exporting or importing with the EU, without any power to change what these are.
Britain voted to join the EEC back in 1973, when it looked like regional trade blocks were the future, this was long before the internet or mass container shipping, and the Soviet empire was in full swing. Technology has since made the idea of local trading unions obsolete, as it is as cheap and easy to do business anywhere in the world. Britain’s future is way beyond the EU, remaining in the EU means we can’t negotiate favourable trade or business deals, we’re stuck with whatever the un-elected commissioners think is best.
I have 3 issues with this;
The first is that the EU is set up to negotiate as part of a trading block of 500 million consumers, we pool our sovereignty, and together we are the richest trading block in the world; this leads too considerable advantages in negotiation up against the likes of China, US and India. It also is categorically NOT cheap and easy to do business anywhere in the world, you have to negotiate the conditions of products, warranties, and price, how these are transported, and whether they are environmentally friendly. There are always conditions, regulations and the effects of our own local trade to consider.
Second, no business outside of the EU wants Britain to leave, literally NONE.
Let’s also take a quick look at the world so, apparently open to favourable trade deals which can be done quickly and easily, once we leave the EU.
- Barack Obama President of the United States – “It could be five years from now, 10 years from now before we’re actually able to get something done,” he told the BBC, adding that the first priority for the US would be to complete ongoing talks on a trade deal with the EU”.
- XI Jinpin President of China and Chinese diplomats – “Britain’s potential exit from the EU worries Beijing, we believe free-market supporting Britain strengthens the EU, which we see as an important ballast to American market dominance
- Secretary general of theFederation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) Dr A Didar Singh – “Brexit could endanger the flow of investment and personnel by diminishing Britain’s role in providing access to Europe” Bharatiya Janata Prime minister of India – “We see the UK as an entry point into the EU”
The list goes on; one quick test to any Leave campaigner is to ask which country thinks Brexit is a good idea? The answer is only Russia for obvious reasons, but it does highlight the paradox to their argument that we can suddenly trade better with the rest of the world, whilst the rest of the world is saying “what the f*ck are you doing!”
My last point is that commissioners don’t decide who we trade with, we do. We sign treaties, we debate with our MEP’s and our Council of Ministers – all elected – and the commissioners are appointed by each member state, vetted by the European Parliament. They are chosen far more democratically to our national counterparts the British Cabinet.
In the past decade our trade with the EU has fallen from 55% to 45%, and this idea that we must merge our political institutions for the sake of a shrinking minority of our commerce, is just frankly stupid. But is Britain too small to compete? Britain’s the 5th largest economy in the world, has the 4th largest military budget, is a founding member of NATO, a permanent seat holder on the United Nations Security Council, the G8 and the G20, has the world’s most widely spoken language, the World’s best universities, and has a cracking history of maritime trade and independence. If Britain isn’t big enough to compete on the world stage, who the bloody hell is?
I find this particularly ridiculous for a few reasons.
- One, we are one of the largest economies in the world, and have become so whilst being in the EU, can’t be that bad can it?
- We have the 4th Largest military budget, I’m not sure what this has to do with trade unless we plan to threaten smaller countries with nuclear weapons – besides most of our funding goes on these expensive nukes which we would never use, and can’t be without the United States approval.
- All Nato allies and Nato Chiefs from 1984 – 2014 have come out against the idea of Brexit, claiming it weakens Britain’s role in the world, including Lord Carrington, who served during the Second World War and was awarded the Military Cross for his actions.
- We keep on talking about the UK being on the United Nations Security Council, but what happen if we left the EU? Remember that the SNP have fundamentally said this will pave the way to a new referendum. Northern Ireland are 75% in favour of staying, the idea of hard boundaries there is terrifying for some! So would little England really be able to justify a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council? Especially considering the other nations (other than Russia) want us to stay in the EU?
“If Britain isn’t big enough for the international stage, who the hell is?” Erm…. The US, China, India, Brazil and the EU as a group of nations – on our own with little exports, a militia instead of a military, and useless nukes, mean jack sh*t compared to the big boys. We have to stop pretending we still rule the world.
Those wanted Britain to remain in the EU, are using uncertainty and doubt, to spread fear.
Ok, so there is obvious scaremongering from both sides of the camp, but this is just a Tory strategy and they have always used scaremongering, just look at the general election in 2010 – “A vote for Labour will destroy our economy even further!” – and in 2015 – “A vote for Labour will lead to a coalition with the SNP!” They’ve never been able to talk positively about running the country.
Can we please pull off the blinkers and look at the Daily Mail, Express and The Sun, and bloody UKIP! They’ve been banging on about the EU controlling our lives, and immigration destroying the country and our culture since their inception decades ago. UKIP have dedicated entire television adverts to focus on how Turkey joining the EU would lead to the Islamification of our country, despite the fact Turkey won’t be joining anytime soon, and the focus on Islam is simply racist scaremongering. They even had that famous billboard with the pointing hand, “immigrants coming for your job!”Since the start of this blog, whilst I was searching on google, just look at the the ad which I came across at the top of the page,
Take Back Control Of UK – voteleavetakecontrol.org/5.23 million EU immigrants coming to the UK by 2030. It’s TIME!
No, the Leave campaign can own the title ‘Project Fear’, they’ve been peddling it for decades, and now it’s behind all their flagship arguments. For the record the Oxford migration observatory has concluded that Immigrants are significant NET contributors to our economy, which means they pay more into our system then they take out, on behalf of sensible British people, I would like to thank them for keeping our public services going!
They claim that each British household could lose as much as £3000 every year by leaving. But even if we pretend these idiotic claims were true, would £750 be really be all it takes to earn your democratic rights.
Nice to see they’ve just glossed over the amount of money you could lose from the decreasing amount of EU investment.
Is the ability to hire and fire our law-makers, democratic freedom’s fought for over 100’s of years, now only worth 2 month’s rent for a studio flat in Glasgow and a packet of Watzits. If 28 unelected British plutocrats tried to pull this crap, I’m sure we’ll tell them to bugger off too.
We do have unelected British Plutocrats, they’re called the British Cabinet, did anyone vote for them to be there? Let’s have a look and see which system is more democratic.
The Commissioners are appointed by member states, whilst the British Cabinet is appointed by the Prime Minister. Commissioners are also vetted by MEP’s who question their suitability and can force their withdrawal, the British Cabinet however is down to the discretion of the Prime Minister. Commissioners can only exercise powers given them by treaties and can only make proposals on the basis of treaties and following a work programme agreed by the Council of Ministers. The Commission cannot integrate EU further. Only a treaty could do that and UK can veto if it wants to. It’s fairly straight forward to see that the EU Commission is far more democratically decided and has significantly less power, in fact it’s bloody crazy how we cannot get angry about our own democratic system, but go decidedly bonkers about the EU, which is so much more proportional to each EU citizen.
However you vote, everything is going to change. The EU commission has made it quite clear they are on the path to closer, financial, legal and border integration. Staying on that bus would lead us having to ditch the pound sterling,
No one is saying this, I thought the Brexit camp were against “Project Fear”, besides we have our own commissioner, and we are an integral part of the EU, using the them vs us argument all the time is complete bollocks.
ditch our entire common law judicial system ,
The European Court of Human Rights (EHCR) which apparently is a problem, protects…
- Our rights to a fair trial,
- The rights to privacy,
- Freedom from torture and degrading treatment,
- Freedom of religion,
- Freedom of expression,
- Freedom from discrimination,
- Freedom from slavery,
- Protecting victims of domestic violence
Their is an argument is that we will keep these rights if we leave, yet I’m not sure what the problem is about staying the ECHR in that case?
ditch our borders; for the Euro, Bench trials, and Schengen in due course.
Remember when we heard about how we should leave the EU, but stay in the single market? …. Now try to name one single country outside of the EU which is part of the Single Market, which doesn’t have Freedom-Of-Movement?. The truth is it is fundamental to the principles of the European Single Market, so if you want the same trade deals, you have too accept Freedom-Of-Movement. In fact our own border controls, whilst we’re in the EU, are outside of the Schengen area. We’ve already negotiated a deal where we have control over our borders, and be part of the Single Market. And again no one is suggesting we relax border controls if we stay.
The Union is of course desperate to maintain control,
Again we are in this Union…
but I don’t think that a few measly threats, mean we need to commit our future to this authoritarian regime.
Authoritarian? Compared to the British system? Remember only 25% of our population voted for the Conservative party who formed a majority, MEP’s are chosen proportionally in the EU.
Besides we’ll be getting on wonderfully well trading, emigrating too and allying with other countries, without needing to give their government control over our laws.
Just ask any Brexiter which EU law they’re against, I’ve so far not heard a single one. Shouldn’t we be worried that we’re being taken out of the EU because of laws that are meant to be taking our freedom, yet those Leave campaigners can never name a single one??
Then ask them which country we’ll suddenly all be able to ally with and emigrate too , that thinks leaving the EU is a good idea. Again the answer is NONE.
So let’s use this one chance, to wish the EU the very best; be their trading partners, business colleagues, military allies and friends. But let them know we’ll govern ourselves here on out, thanks all the same.
I’m not sure the EU, our trading partners, business colleagues, military allies and “friends” from any were in the world agree with the Idea of Brexit, but hey ho, it’s only our relationship with the world we’re talking about.
Vote IN June 23rd.